I love your games so far, BitShift! For some context, I'm currently working on a personal project that requires multiple perspectives and topics. I want you to know that your games have genuinely creeped me out, and the concepts of mind control and hypnosis make my skin crawl with disgust. However, I also appreciate the fact that you've developed these games, showcasing your passion for their creation.
I read your reply to MrSahelanthropus, and I want to emphasize that your games are not slop. I firmly believe that. The concepts I mentioned earlier will definitely be implemented into my project, just as others have.
I love media that challenges regular societal norms and my own beliefs, as long as it doesn't go too far—and in my opinion, your games haven't. I hope you will continue to create more games after "Cruel Serenade." I also hope we can chat about your games and how they are influencing my project.
I apologize in advance for the mixed feelings I'm expressing, but I believe they are relevant. My intention is not to offend or discourage you; rather, I want to encourage you and show my appreciation for you, your games, and your passions.
Something about this game has me in a talkative mood I guess. That, or something you said piqued my curiosity.
It doesn't seem like you enjoy the kinks on offer, so I just wanted to know why you decided to download this game in the first place if you don't mind me asking. I get wanting to challenge yourself with uncomfortable media, but people don't generally tend to do that with the porn they consume.
I just like things that make me uncomfortable. They make me think about various things, and that helps me get a better understanding of the topics and how they contradict other things.
That's a simplified way of explaining it, but there's more to it. I've always had an interest in things that, quite frankly, not a lot of people are willing to experience or think about. Buying things that make me uncomfortable might sound unnecessary, but I see it as an investment in knowledge and wisdom.
Fair enough I suppose. Like I said, I get enjoying challenging media. I myself enjoy watching movies that make me squirm from time to time. What I don't get is seeking out porn specifically to make you uncomfortable. That would just kinda kill the experience for me, but to each their own and all.
Hey, no worries, no one has to like what I make, as long as you're polite (and you certainly have been). And, if I'm understanding right, you DID actually enjoy them in a way, just a somewhat roundabout way. But there's plenty of stuff I'm not into as well. I'm glad you were able to appreciate the game to some degree despite the difference in taste.
I don't normally take the time to pay compliments to the people that have made products I enjoy. Maybe that's a personal failing. Maybe I can start changing that now.
I just wanted to say that I enjoyed the game. A lot, in fact. Hypnotism and mind control may not be the most common fetish out there, but it isn't as if there's a lack of content for it either. To be honest, it's a big kink for me. I know my way around the many artists and subgenres within well enough and there is plenty to choose from. Despite that, this game has quickly become one of my favorite pieces of erotic fiction I've ever consumed.
It's almost like this game was tailor made for me specifically. The unsuspecting and honestly pretty likable main character, the option to play legitimately if desired, an art style that isn't just generic furry no#89368, and, of course, the mind control. You have to have one of the best grasps on the appeal of mind control and hypnotism I've come across. From light submission and trances, to the borderline horror scenarios that your protagonist goes through. It all pushes so many of the right buttons. The only reason I'm not playing Gutter Trash right now is because I'm a poor college boy and I don't have ten bucks to spare, but you better believe I'm picking it up as soon as I get the chance.
I guess I should bring this ramble to a close. Kudos. You are a fantastic creator, I genuinely mean that.
Thanks! I know the feeling: it's easy to just pass things by without commenting, especially for bigger games, items on Amazon etc where you think "Is anyone actually going to read this?" But that's the great thing about games this size: they're big enough to be viable as more than a hobby, but still small enough that people will in fact bother to read what your write. Including me!
Hypnosis stuff is awesome, I really started to get into it a few years back, which is one of the reasons CS ended up happening. Very under-served IMHO. I think it's something people like to winge about because it's a fantasy with a little bite to it, but it also suffers because so few people seem capable of doing it justice. Really fun if you can actually get across why it's great though, that feeling of powerlessness, of reality becoming plastic, of pillars you depend on just being re-arranged in your head.
Which is all to say, glad it's hitting for you. I always say my strategy for these games is pretty simple: I just try to make something I would enjoy playing. And so far it seems like a lot of others were looking for the same thing and didn't realize it. This isn't a quick little goof for me, a casual side-experiment or hobby. I'm careful not to take it TOO seriously, but there's a lot of me in these games, the writing, the characters. I can't deliver amazing visuals, cutting edge gameplay or tech marvels, but the one thing I can do is give a shit about what I'm doing. That's why the characters aren't generic (or sparkledogs): I can't stand crappy characters. That's why there aren't annoying insincere jokes every five seconds: I can't stand that crap (though there ARE plenty of dad jokes here and there). I do my best, in my humble way, to try to take these games seriously, and to take the players seriously. Why on earth should they give me their time or money if I don't?
There's so, so, SO much slop out there these days, it drags me down a little almost every day thinking about it. Slop on Steam, slop in the movie theater, slop on streaming services, slop on Youtube. And I know at the end of the day this is just a silly little porn game. But I hope in some small way these games can be a respite in that sea of garbage. I hope some people can stop, take a bite, and go "Whoa, this was actually made by a PERSON! With FEELINGS and BELIEFS and EXPERIENCES that color everything in subtle ways. Who actually cared!" That's what art is: humans communicating with humans in a way words (direct words anyway) can't. And this can ooze out almost anywhere if you let it: in a car, a circuit board, a table.
Or even a dumb porn game.
Also, if you're on FA, toss me a note (Bitshift). May be able to help you out.
Honestly, I do my image browsing on e6 (better tagging system (Side note: found the original CS images, insta faved and the story was so fucking hot. Like I said before, you just get it. Having Mezz be caught in a loop where he keeps forgetting about and willingly coming back to the boar hideout only to get his brains fucked out all over again. Each time reducing his humanity more and more until only a thin facade remains, snapping like a twig on command and giving way to the eager slut he has become. So good.)) BUT I saw the link to your FA in your profile. So literally a few hours ago I made an FA account just to follow you there (although calling it a "watch list" kinda threw me for a loop). You'll have to excuse me by the way if I'm unaware of a lot of the social aspects of the fandom sites, I mostly just keep to myself and image browse and I've never been on FA before so I don't know what "tossing a note" means.
Also, I know it's easy to become cynical in today's media landscape, but for whatever my opinion is worth, it was clear while playing that your game was a genuine creation made by someone that clearly cared about what they were making. As long as the passion for the craft is there, who cares if it's some silly little porn game. What matters is that you enjoy creating it, and we enjoy experiencing it. Hey, it got me to do something I literally never do and actually engage in a fandom conversation, so I'd say you're doing something right.
Notes are what social media sites call "DMs" these days. Don't worry though, I tossed YOU one. Just look for the notification up in the corner. And no worries, FA is an old site, it's just the only thing with direct messaging I spend much time on.
Ha, and thanks. Man, I've been in the jungle of the fandom a long time, and there's definitely a lot that's...not so great. But there are some real, positive human interactions out there too. Glad to provide when I can.
No, stock RPGMaker is somewhat compatible with mobile, but I use a bunch of custom stuff that only really works on desktop. Also, I don't want to be mean, but what's your situation that you have NO desktop, laptop etc? I understand needing to keep things cheap, but pcs ARE cheaper than phones. Corporate/school surplus stuff from 10 years ago (which is MORE than enough to play this) is like $80 on Ebay. You can get a monitor for $20 at any thriftstore. Unless you're buying second-hand, phones START at like $200.
How are you able to function without a desktop? How do you do paperwork, browse anything other than social media, write anything longer than a paragraph? A number of people have asked this, and the whole scenario behind it genuinely baffles me. If you're someplace other than the US, where the availability is different, fair enough, but it's not a cost issue. Are you a university student crammed into a tiny dorm? But then how are you doing your coursework? Is your living situation so unstable/dangerous that you're afraid anything not on your person will be stolen? What's the story here?
I recently moved and have been struggling saving and getting stuff for my room i didnt bring much with me but little trinkets and my xbox i can afford a laptop the first s seeing how im done with the more important expenses im just impatient and wanna play a lil of this game cause theres like 0 good gay porn games on mobile
(Edit):also i don't find it mean/rude as yeah pcs for these types of games are pretty cheap so your confusion is justified
Ahh, ok. See, that absolutely makes sense then. I can just seize on things sometimes, and I don't want to sound like I'm attacking someone, for exactly this reason: sometimes there are good reasons I just can't think of. Sorry to hear though, and good luck getting everything sorted.
Massive fan of your art for years (long time listener, first time caller). Saw the e6 promo a while ago and finally got around to playing..... GOD DAMN this hits all my buttons. Definitely gonna hop on the paid part two at some point to see the continuation. For some reason I couldn't get cases 3 and 4 in the gallery even though I'm pretty sure I got all the scenes but that's probably a skill issue. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!
Haha, aw thanks man. Winter's always...rough for me, so these comments give me life, especially now. Glad you were finally able to get to it! Are you sure you have your scene count right though? 3 is unavoidable if you lose once in the Gutter itself. 4 is the set of scenes for the job at the video store, so if you took the job at the strip club you'll want to go back to a save and work there instead. Ooooh wait, this is CS ONE, didn't notice where you were commenting. Let me check quick (and yeah, definitely check out 2 when you can, it's like 3 times the content.) Ok, 3 and four should be getting to the Diezel fight with LESS THAN the full 3 defeats to the mobs. You'll have a choice in the kneeling scene to give in or keep struggling: struggling loops you, giving in should be scene 4 if I'm remembering right.
I don't know if it's worth programming (and drawing) this since you're working on chapter 3 now, but it would be lovely that if you chose the slut ending, you can carry the ear tags over from chapter to chapter. Maybe accrue more and more slut gear and stack it on as the chapters go on and if you get too many, you're permalocked to only the slut endings~<3
The ear tags don't explicitly carry over visually, but you'll notice he pockets them in the slut ending. Things do accumulate, and will continue to, as the games go on.
this game is more sad than it is arousing. also i hope that the creator of this game is an adult. the contents of this game where a little disturbing honestly. of course, what was i supposed to expect given the provided screenshots... i don't know, i feel the game would be better if you excluded rape. but i have a feeling that may have been the point. regardless though it was fun while it lasted great art and pretty good writing. 7/10
ps: i hope my comment does not offend you its not meant to.
love and respect bro.
i really hope your grown, man, the furry community gets kids involved in shit like this all the time and it makes me sick.
Works of fiction are not real life. One of the purposes (maybe THE purpose) of fiction is to explore the unconscious, including (especially) the darker areas. We are, fundamentally, a predator species (sharp teeth, meat eating, persistence hunters), and despite tens of thousands of years of stuff accumulating on top of that, the base urges and instincts remain the same. It is better to exorcise those "demons" in contained places where they can do no harm than to let them fester in the dark. That which is feared and revered becomes powerful, that which is trivialized becomes largely harmless.
And even all that said, this is a very modest dipping into these themes. If they're not for you, that's fine of course, but understand that they ARE for a lot of people. The whole of BDSM essentially grows out of this, and it's not one-sided either. People enjoy throwing others around, but a whole lot of people enjoy GETTING thrown around too (and it fact that's the main audience for this game).
On your last point: In my experience the fandom is simultaneously one of the best and worst groups of people out there. Most are incredibly kind, patient, generous, creative and so on. But it's also a community of people built on the idea of being outcasts (like nerds, geeks, "gamers" etc), which makes its members extremely hesitant to gatekeep or have hard limits or boundaries, and this in turn leads to exploitation by bad actors who would have been much more rapidly shown the door in other circles. To be clear, I am NOT advocating the witch hunt nonsense that has devoured the internet in recent years. Encouraging dogpiles over minor things or fabricated evidence is bullshit. But if there is clear, severe evidence that someone is up to seriously terrible shit, and has been for a while, people should obviously warn others to stay away. What I make is adult entertainment, for adults. It's clearly marked as such. This isn't a physical store, I can't card people (and trying to do so online is impractical and dangerous for a variety of reasons), but this is an adult product with an adult intended audience.
i guess i understand but it still saddens me. and i guess thats my own messed up mind but seeing that stuff inflicted on real or fake people upsets me and i honestly think that things such as BDSM and kinks that revolve around, violence, humiliation, zoophilia and pedophilia should NOT be expressed at all in any way fictional or real. and i see where your coming from but id have to argue that making things like this to "explore" those fantasies only leads to that individual wanting more than just the fantasy. maybe not everyone but i feel like it just enables that behavior. and your comments about the furry community are somewhat false. i was involved with the community since i was 11 years old i'm now 18, and my ENTIRE time with the community was horrible. i was groomed, bullied, and abused by the people i tried to fit in with and now have lasting mental scars and it pisses me off every time someone says its 50/50 or that bad folk in the community are few and far between, its the exact opposite. and whenever i say this someone claps back with "well thats just your experience" or "you just hung around the wrong ones" and that is wrong. i tried and tried again to fit in and make friends but theres always problems. I'm always bullied or if not that I'm in a group of people who are toxic or judgmental or raciest or fucked up in some way. I'm tired of people acting like the community isn't mostly bad. it is mostly bad and i have damn near half my life to prove it!
Again i don't mean to offend you or be rude or be a dick and i apologize for ranting. to be honest i just want to heard. The furry community fucked me up and i struggle with it to this day, i've been though therapy, talked with countless people and asked countless questions and i still hurt i still feel like if i try to involve myself again it will only lead to more sadness and regret, more bulling and more stress.
i want to say one last thing. i don't know why but every time i see furry art or someone in a fursuit it makes me angry. it used to make me feel comfortable and safe but those feelings are rare now, and it fucking kills me. and now whenever i try to grab on to those feelings of safety and comfort when i see something that has do do with furries its immediately overshadowed by all my anger and sadness regarding the community.
I'm sorry for your experience, and I'm certainly in no position to question it. All I can say is that I have an experience of the community as well, spanning quite a long time, and while it's far from the wonderful, fluffy thing a lot of people imagine it as, there are good people too. Again, most seem to be fairly harmless, and that can be a problem because their severe lack of cynicism and skepticism can be very welcoming and warm, but can also render them somewhat oblivious when someone someone starts exploiting people.
But again, fiction did not do this. Fiction did not create the people who abused you. Everyone has dark shit in their head. If they let it consume them it's because they chose to do so, not because art corrupted them somehow. I know it's tempting to think that way, to think "Why don't we just get rid of all the stuff that 'gives people ideas'? Only happy art, only happy thoughts, only happy acts." But that doesn't work because the problem isn't external, it's internal. This stuff is already a part of all of us, it's inescapable, and if you try to ignore or suppress it it only gets worse. That's what the old Jekyll and Hyde story is about: you can't "purify" things, either on an individual or societal level. That just makes the problem worse. You have to learn to integrate the two, to find a way to live with the dark side of yourself and, ideally, sublimate that energy toward something positive.
If furry stuff brings up bad memories, by all means stay away from it. I'll admit I find it a little strange you played the game, given your background. If this stuff has bad mental associations, stay way from it! Or at least re-introduce yourself slowly. But regardless, understand I don't want to cause you, or anyone else pain. The purpose of these games, in their own humble way, is exactly the opposite. Sex CAN be fun. Exploring kink and taboo in a safe way can be fun. It can relax and renew and help distract from the miserable grind of day to day life. I'm sorry your experiences have been bad, and I'm not denying them at all. Just understand that they CAN be positive too: they have been for me. In a weird way, this stuff has been a very positive force in my life: It's helped me deal with negative emotions, de-stress, reorient. At times in my life when things have been very dark, being able to get lost in fun little fantasy works, little horny vacations has been profoundly helpful. It has, almost literally, been a lifesaver. And that's why I make this stuff: to make some money of course, but also to try to share that positive experience with others. And from the comments I get, I've had at least some success.
I'm not a therapist or a psychologist. All I can say, genuinely, is that I hope you're able to heal and be happy again, in time. And I hope some of that happiness is being able to enjoy sexual stuff again, despite what's happened. It really can be a positive thing.
I don't know what to say. No one's laid it out to me that way honestly I don't know. I really do wanna be involved with it because it makes me happy. but I'm so tired of the pain and shit man. I just wanna be happy. I really appreciate you talking to me. You've done a lot more than a lot of other people. I've tried to talk with genuinely thank you. I don't know man my whole life I've had trouble making friends and feeling happy and then when I became a furry things got a little easier and then like I said all that shit happened and ever since then I haven't been able to have that feeling again. now it's gotten so bad to the point of where I honestly don't believe I can have a relationship or an actual friend. I don't know what to do. I want to go back to feeling happy and comfortable with that but now it's just a source of constant sadness and anger, and I don't want it to be. sorry I'm going on another rant. Honestly, these past couple weeks have been hard and my head's been all over the place. I'm sorry I even laid all this shit on you, man. I hope your life's going good and I hope you keep being the good person you are. seriously thank you for what you said. I've been anxious about this conversation and what you said I don't know, man I've got so much to work on. I've got so much fucked up with me. and I hate it bro. I'm scared cause I'm only 18 I'm terrified that shit's gonna get worse and all I'm trying to do is heal man. and all this thinking about my past and this shit on top of trying to find a job and make sure we have food and shit. It's just so much. And all I want is to relax and be happy I used to ERP and shit too man. god it made me so happy but then as the years went by, I started getting mad at myself for it.told myself It was bad even though deep down I knew that was helpful for me and it did exactly what you said it did (i even talked to my therapist and she said it was a good way to get those feelings out) and you're right. I'm just denying it because I am upset. I don't know man my whole life's a fucking mess but once again, I'm sorry to put all this on you. I know you're a complete stranger I'm sorry.i hope you have a good rest your day and thank you so much for replying to me once again. your words mean a lot to me, thank you.
oh, one last thing sorry about not seeing your messages. itch.io doesn't notify me. So if you reply to this, sorry if I don't see it for a while.
I'm not going to say I know the feeling EXACTLY, everyone has their own stuff to deal with. But I had some pretty rough times from high school all the way up till...a few years ago really. Trying to deal with shitty living situations, financial stress and yes, definitely sexuality stuff (though that resolved a lot sooner than the others). But I'm definitely no stranger to that overwhelming feeling of being buried under shit. And being younger can make it worse in some ways, because you have more energy, which means there's more energy for the anxiety to work with and run wild. The good news is there's obviously a lot of advantage to being young too, most obviously that you've got time.
Take that time. Sort out priorities. Triage like they do in ER, try to figure out what's most important, where you're taking the biggest hits or, on the other side, where the easiest wins are, and start stacking them up. Don't force yourself to do stuff too fast or too early, but do try to make steady progress on what's important. Build it up over time.
And again, I'm really sorry to hear something you enjoyed so much got ruined. Not because you can't enjoy my silly little game, but because like I said, that stuff really is a big part of life, and can be really positive and helpful with the right people. But again, just do what you can to build, slowly. As someone who's struggled with depression and definitely still has some trust issues, human connections are still important, despite the shitty things so many people do. I obviously don't know you, or all the specifics of your situation, but I do at least somewhat remember what it was like to be a teenager, and yeah. I'll just say that if I was able to get past some of the stuff that seemed really dire at that point, your chances are probably pretty good too. Just let yourself take the time you need. Not too fast, not too slow.
Fair enough. I don't think it's been an issue for most people, as this is the first complaint I've got, but different people obviously have different preferences. Probably won't be tweaking it at this point, but will keep in mind for future stuff.
Wont run, computer says "cannot find file nw_elf.dll", I look at all the file and I can still see it. All times I tried to run, it said that specific one could not be found.
Take a look at some of the other help I've given regarding file not found errors, here and on the forums for GT. Generally, avoid running the game in deep nested folders, on the system drive, or on external drives. RPGMaker has issues with that stuff for some reason. Copy-paste the game directory to another drive, no extra directories, and see if that fixes the problem.
If a native speaker volunteers to do so, absolutely; as I say in the translation sticky (on GT), I'm open to unofficial translations. But I don't do any translations myself or contract out for a professional to do so, not enough time and money for that currently. Also keep in mind that if you just want basic playability, CS and CS:GT are RPGMaker games, which means they're very easy to hook and machine-translate in real-time with "RPGMakerMVGame Hook patcher", Textractor, and a free API key from Deepl. Far from perfect, but it'll get you the general idea.
By all means! See the first post here for the "rules," but it basically just boils down to "Be clear it's unofficial, don't charge for it, only distribute text, if you use machine translation for more that 20%, say so." I generally recommend Translator++ for translating RPGMaker games, as it's easier to keep track of everything, but you're certainly free to do it however works for you. And send me a link when/if you finish!
Hey, great game! Even made an itch account just to comment! It was a... real experience. Downloaded for the horny, stayed and completed the game for Mezz's dignity. Might sound strange, but I couldn't even bring myself to lose intentionally. Might defeat the purpose of the game, but Mezz was just too lovable of a character! I just felt too bad seeing the fail and loss endings for Mezz, even if that's the point of it. I'm just glad there is an uncorrupted ending and routes for staying pure for players that want to see him succeed. It might be contradictory to your design, and you're welcome to make your games how you like, but I would like to continue to see options for pure endings for Mezz, even if it's hard. Maybe even wholesome sex scenes without mind control or coercion? Just a suggestion. Well, speaking on difficulty, beating this first chapter while fighting everything, especially the bar before the boss, was quite tough! Maybe even a bit unfair and luck based at times, taking many retries for the bar before the boss, but I suppose it's intended to lose alot a standard playthrough, even if it's not intended from the player's point of view. The humiliation part of the game is not lost on me, but I like beating the game without Mezz being humiliated. I'm glad there was an option, no matter how tough it was. Either way, great game, hope to see more from you. Thanks.
"I would like to continue to see options for pure endings for Mezz, even if it's hard." There definitely will be, tough it will obviously be only a small part of the scenes overall. But hey, you can play it the way you enjoy it. I mostly have the "pure" path as a counter to the other stuff; it's not fun to lose if you don't have the OPTION to actually play legitimately.
"taking many retries for the bar before the boss, but I suppose it's intended to lose a lot a standard playthrough,"
I tend to put in "speed bumps" or barriers, pain points that are meant to tempt players to go the "easy" way. People do the humiliation thing differently: some just plow him straight into the scenes, but some like a little bit of coercion or struggle, they like to actually be pulled into it, so those bits are there for that. It is possible to push through them for pure players though, just takes extra effort. And I try to not make the speed bumps TOO brutal: that bar fight used to be a lot worse.
Hi, thank you for the reply. I'm glad to hear there'll be continued support for pure paths, and I appreciate your reasons for your design choices. They seem really thought out. I think it's really great design that you give options and decent outcomes for a wide variety of players, including myself. And the "speed bumps" you were talking about were so satisfying to overcome in a pure route, considering how difficult it was. I felt giddy with excitement when I beat the game purely because I was questioning if it was even possible or not, even though Mezz seemed to act like it was the easiest thing in the world. I can see this series being really successful, and I look forward to getting a copy of the next chapter. I took a peek at it, and it seems pretty interesting! The save transfer feature for story consistency will be especially nice for the pure routes. Anyways, thank you for your time and interaction. I wish you luck.
Indeed it can, but that's not the purpose of that tag. That tag means "supported platform", ie the game in question is specifically designed for said platform, which the CS games are not. It means they are intended to run smoothly and easily on a platform, which these games are not with Linux. It implies that if they DON'T work on those platforms, I will put in the time and effort needed to make sure they do. In other words, it is, or may be, possible to get these games running on Linux (or Mobile), but it isn't SUPPORTED. If you want to try, you're on your own, and things will probably break at various points. And as I remind people whenever this comes up, just for starters I have a number of plugins at this point that assume a desktop Windows environment, so they're not going to be happy on a Linux system. But if you want to try, you're certainly welcome to, and I imagine getting an RPGMaker game to run on Linux will probably be much easier than say a serious 3D game that's trying to make intense use of the hardware. But it will be a hassle.
Just tried to find the hypnotized version of the fight music but had no luck. All i could find was that it's called Dance With Powder. Did you slow the song by yourself? Or did you find a different version? Thanks in advance
After seeing the gallery im suprised you dont have a option to fight the genaric boars again or have a image of the bun with the diffrent poses you made for the game.
Galleries are always about a time calculation. The idea is to let impatient people skip straight to the juiciest content, or people who have played through revisit said content easily a few months/years afterward if they want without having to fumble with saves or replay the whole game. I leave the battlesex stuff out of the gallery because my thinking is it's fairly easy to reach normally. Even if you had no saves and had to play through the intro bit again, that's MAYBE 20 minutes, and then you can quickly lose and see all the variations of the battlesex system. In contrast, getting to every single scene normally takes a while. But as always, I do keep an ear out. If enough people want a fight generator I may consider it.
Fun game so far, though I've noticed an edge case that looks like it wasn't accounted for. If you reach the broken in state and then take off your ear clips, there's no special dialogue or anything. In the next battle, the sprite initially shows without the clips, but you still deal reduced damage and as soon as the enemies have a turn, they fuck you again as normal. At that point, the clips magically reappear on the sprite. Would be nice to either have some different mechanic here or dialogue explaining that we don't want to take off the clips at that point or something. (It also might be important to mention that I was naked when beginning the fight. So naked, but without ear clips.)
In general, the ear clips exist as a toggle to allow players to avoid the sex mechanic in battle at certain points. It's somewhat of a meta thing however: narratively, Mezz can't remove the clips because he doesn't know they're there.
Once Mezz has been defeated 3 times, this ability to toggle off the battle sex is removed: you can remove the clips, but it won't do anything. This is by design. As for the sprites, while I try to maintain "common sense" consistency for the most part, I'm not sure it's worth digging through the code for this particular case at this point. I will take a look when I have a chance though, and see if there's a simple way to address it, and to see if I can remember whether this was deliberate for some reason or a genuine oversight. Thanks for reporting though, regardless.
Alright, had a chance to sit down and do some testing. Starting a fight after 3 defeats ("slut mode") with the clips removed does indeed initially show Mezz without them, but they re-appear once the sex starts.
Unfortunately I think I'm going to leave it as-is for now. Fixing would require a whole unique set of sex sprites without the clips, and code to check for slut mode, and I don't want to mess with the precarious coding of the battle engine on CS unless I have to. Thanks for letting me know though!
Yeah, the lack of variety in enemies/combat is definitely an issue, and it was improved SOMEWHAT in GutterTrash. I'm a little limited in what I can do in that area though, because more enemies, if they're significantly different, doesn't just mean new sprites, but also new variations for the sex sprites etc. It adds up quickly. I do a similar thing in GT (one species of enemies, but a few palate swaps for sub-classes), but there's a bit more depth to it, especially on some of the bosses. Glad you were able to enjoy this first attempt though!
Il negozio di alimentari non mi dà cibo gratis. Insistono perché io usi i soldi. Lo stesso vale per il distributore di benzina. E la lavanderia a gettoni. E il mio ISP. In verità, c'è molta crudeltà nel mondo di oggi.
I did not have any technical problems and everything seemed well polished enough, but after seeing the two "good" endings I kinda wish there was a middle road. In my first playthrough I went in blind, kept the clips and engaged with the scenes while trying not to lose so I ended up avoiding the slut mode, made we kind wish he didn't toss them at the end. While the slut mode end felt too much like I still lost the game, so I would not go that route if given the choice again. I understand that's the kind of game you're making, just needed to get that out of my chest.
Different flavors for different people obviously, nothing wrong with that. But yes, unfortunately what I call the "trained" ending, with him being used but escaping is essentially the "middle" ending depending on how you look at it. Pure obviously would be no captures. But I suppose middle is debatable, because maximum corruption leads to the trained end, whereas SOME corruption either leads to the ordinary victory, a temp defeat and then the ordinary victory, or a full defeat where he doesn't leave the island. Thematically though, I tend to think of the trained end or slutmode end as the middle path.
What were you looking for, more specifically though？ You don't have describe specific scenes or anything, just broadly what were you imagining as the ideal middle way? What would it look like? Obviously not going to change this game, but I can always consider ideas.
Was kinda worried I was coming in too strong, I respect the effort you've put on this project a lot, forgot to mention I do love the style, specially the main character. If you want to hear my thoughts, I admit I agree the "middle road" I imagined is not a great fit for what's built here, mechanically it would involve the ability to actively engage with the sex battling, rather than just being overtaken by an enemy, making it an option along with the normal attacks, maybe even giving xp for k.o. an opponent that way since normal sex here gives none. And for the story I guess it'd be something like a glitch? the clips and hypno not entirely working as intended as he would not turn into an obedient slave, but keep his personality and goals while becoming open to sex and nudity, he might still need to fight off hypnotic attacks since he'd be on the brink of giving in but would pull through regular battles when needed. An example would be what I mentioned on the previous post, getting the normal ending where the boars die, but leave with the clips on hand instead of tossing them into the sea.
No no, you're perfectly fine. People are free to talk about things they dislike about the game (and in fact I encourage it) as long as they're not being really shitty and rude about it, which you weren't.
"mechanically it would involve the ability to actively engage with the sex battling, rather than just being overtaken by an enemy."
I'd highly recommend you check out the sequel, GutterTrash, if you haven't already. Definitely more of that there. Though to be fair, there is SOME engagement here too, at least in terms of choosing to actively participate, go along with it, or struggle.
In terms of the rest of it I can see what you're saying, but essentially that's what the Trained end is for: he's defeated, but he THINKS he won, and continues on with further adventures, keeping the clips and conditioning. Again, I'd encourage you to play GT if you haven't to see how all this starts to mesh together.
Appreciate the thoughts though, I'm always glad when people care enough to think this stuff through and try to articulate what worked or didn't for them. I can't hit everything obviously, but I definitely take it into account.
Glad to hear, and I'll think about it. I'll let you be, but to finish, what you said is a point that sticks with me "thinks he won", I've played these kinds of games for far too long and that always rubs me the wrong way, to do the fun part you have to sacrifice the main character's goals, it's hard to find a game where the mc gets into the fun willingly or at least enjoys in a way that isn't portrayed as a negative while also achieving a definitive win in the end, I guess I always end up getting too invested in the plot.
Again, different things for different people. But there are actually a LOT of games out there that are just ordinary sex, darker stuff is actually pretty rare, especially in western games. If I'm understanding you right you're basically saying "why can't this be a game where the hero can just enjoy having sex without the dark overtones?", but those overtones are the whole point. That's the kink. The drive of these games has always been to have that darker flavor, they're very much games where the bad end is the good end, ie what you as the player are actually trying to achieve. They're about sadism and masochism, though more mental than physical, and obviously not as brutal as that might imply. But if that's not your flavor, that's entirely fair.
Well this first game itself is free. The save file may not be as useful as you think though, as the game doesn't have a gallery to unlock yet: the only way to see the scenes currently is to actually play the game. If you're having trouble with a particular part, let me know, or check the Scene Guide here.
To be clear, in case other people see this and get confused, this is in GutterTrash, not this first one. By "night club" I'm assuming you mean the basement party area with the green fog? Talk to the NPCs. Specifically, one on the far left.
No, you want the green kitsune, not the hyena. That should put you on the right path to getting the key. If you already HAVE the key, you should just be able to use it (once you've dealt with the guard).
No problem, feel free to use your native language if it's easier, and it's a common one. I can probably machine translate it.
The one you want is the green kitsune/fox all the way on the left, Satin. He gives you a long fetch quest going back and forth through various NPCs in the room via hints, which I can see being difficult if English isn't your native language. BUT, you actually don't have to do that: you can skip the quest. Talk to him again, and when he gives you the text input box, type "you". He'll deny it the first time, so do it again, and then you'll get the key.
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I love your games so far, BitShift! For some context, I'm currently working on a personal project that requires multiple perspectives and topics. I want you to know that your games have genuinely creeped me out, and the concepts of mind control and hypnosis make my skin crawl with disgust. However, I also appreciate the fact that you've developed these games, showcasing your passion for their creation.
I read your reply to MrSahelanthropus, and I want to emphasize that your games are not slop. I firmly believe that. The concepts I mentioned earlier will definitely be implemented into my project, just as others have.
I love media that challenges regular societal norms and my own beliefs, as long as it doesn't go too far—and in my opinion, your games haven't. I hope you will continue to create more games after "Cruel Serenade." I also hope we can chat about your games and how they are influencing my project.
I apologize in advance for the mixed feelings I'm expressing, but I believe they are relevant. My intention is not to offend or discourage you; rather, I want to encourage you and show my appreciation for you, your games, and your passions.
Something about this game has me in a talkative mood I guess. That, or something you said piqued my curiosity.
It doesn't seem like you enjoy the kinks on offer, so I just wanted to know why you decided to download this game in the first place if you don't mind me asking. I get wanting to challenge yourself with uncomfortable media, but people don't generally tend to do that with the porn they consume.
I just like things that make me uncomfortable. They make me think about various things, and that helps me get a better understanding of the topics and how they contradict other things.
That's a simplified way of explaining it, but there's more to it. I've always had an interest in things that, quite frankly, not a lot of people are willing to experience or think about. Buying things that make me uncomfortable might sound unnecessary, but I see it as an investment in knowledge and wisdom.
Fair enough I suppose. Like I said, I get enjoying challenging media. I myself enjoy watching movies that make me squirm from time to time. What I don't get is seeking out porn specifically to make you uncomfortable. That would just kinda kill the experience for me, but to each their own and all.
I didn't say it was porn I sought out specifically. But, I gotcha, though. It is pretty weird.
I seek out the black and white in things, and all the shades of grey in between. It's decently thought-provoking.
Hey, no worries, no one has to like what I make, as long as you're polite (and you certainly have been). And, if I'm understanding right, you DID actually enjoy them in a way, just a somewhat roundabout way. But there's plenty of stuff I'm not into as well. I'm glad you were able to appreciate the game to some degree despite the difference in taste.
I don't normally take the time to pay compliments to the people that have made products I enjoy. Maybe that's a personal failing. Maybe I can start changing that now.
I just wanted to say that I enjoyed the game. A lot, in fact. Hypnotism and mind control may not be the most common fetish out there, but it isn't as if there's a lack of content for it either. To be honest, it's a big kink for me. I know my way around the many artists and subgenres within well enough and there is plenty to choose from. Despite that, this game has quickly become one of my favorite pieces of erotic fiction I've ever consumed.
It's almost like this game was tailor made for me specifically. The unsuspecting and honestly pretty likable main character, the option to play legitimately if desired, an art style that isn't just generic furry no#89368, and, of course, the mind control. You have to have one of the best grasps on the appeal of mind control and hypnotism I've come across. From light submission and trances, to the borderline horror scenarios that your protagonist goes through. It all pushes so many of the right buttons. The only reason I'm not playing Gutter Trash right now is because I'm a poor college boy and I don't have ten bucks to spare, but you better believe I'm picking it up as soon as I get the chance.
I guess I should bring this ramble to a close. Kudos. You are a fantastic creator, I genuinely mean that.
Thanks! I know the feeling: it's easy to just pass things by without commenting, especially for bigger games, items on Amazon etc where you think "Is anyone actually going to read this?" But that's the great thing about games this size: they're big enough to be viable as more than a hobby, but still small enough that people will in fact bother to read what your write. Including me!
Hypnosis stuff is awesome, I really started to get into it a few years back, which is one of the reasons CS ended up happening. Very under-served IMHO. I think it's something people like to winge about because it's a fantasy with a little bite to it, but it also suffers because so few people seem capable of doing it justice. Really fun if you can actually get across why it's great though, that feeling of powerlessness, of reality becoming plastic, of pillars you depend on just being re-arranged in your head.
Which is all to say, glad it's hitting for you. I always say my strategy for these games is pretty simple: I just try to make something I would enjoy playing. And so far it seems like a lot of others were looking for the same thing and didn't realize it. This isn't a quick little goof for me, a casual side-experiment or hobby. I'm careful not to take it TOO seriously, but there's a lot of me in these games, the writing, the characters. I can't deliver amazing visuals, cutting edge gameplay or tech marvels, but the one thing I can do is give a shit about what I'm doing. That's why the characters aren't generic (or sparkledogs): I can't stand crappy characters. That's why there aren't annoying insincere jokes every five seconds: I can't stand that crap (though there ARE plenty of dad jokes here and there). I do my best, in my humble way, to try to take these games seriously, and to take the players seriously. Why on earth should they give me their time or money if I don't?
There's so, so, SO much slop out there these days, it drags me down a little almost every day thinking about it. Slop on Steam, slop in the movie theater, slop on streaming services, slop on Youtube. And I know at the end of the day this is just a silly little porn game. But I hope in some small way these games can be a respite in that sea of garbage. I hope some people can stop, take a bite, and go "Whoa, this was actually made by a PERSON! With FEELINGS and BELIEFS and EXPERIENCES that color everything in subtle ways. Who actually cared!" That's what art is: humans communicating with humans in a way words (direct words anyway) can't. And this can ooze out almost anywhere if you let it: in a car, a circuit board, a table.
Or even a dumb porn game.
Also, if you're on FA, toss me a note (Bitshift). May be able to help you out.
Honestly, I do my image browsing on e6 (better tagging system (Side note: found the original CS images, insta faved and the story was so fucking hot. Like I said before, you just get it. Having Mezz be caught in a loop where he keeps forgetting about and willingly coming back to the boar hideout only to get his brains fucked out all over again. Each time reducing his humanity more and more until only a thin facade remains, snapping like a twig on command and giving way to the eager slut he has become. So good.)) BUT I saw the link to your FA in your profile. So literally a few hours ago I made an FA account just to follow you there (although calling it a "watch list" kinda threw me for a loop). You'll have to excuse me by the way if I'm unaware of a lot of the social aspects of the fandom sites, I mostly just keep to myself and image browse and I've never been on FA before so I don't know what "tossing a note" means.
Also, I know it's easy to become cynical in today's media landscape, but for whatever my opinion is worth, it was clear while playing that your game was a genuine creation made by someone that clearly cared about what they were making. As long as the passion for the craft is there, who cares if it's some silly little porn game. What matters is that you enjoy creating it, and we enjoy experiencing it. Hey, it got me to do something I literally never do and actually engage in a fandom conversation, so I'd say you're doing something right.
Notes are what social media sites call "DMs" these days. Don't worry though, I tossed YOU one. Just look for the notification up in the corner. And no worries, FA is an old site, it's just the only thing with direct messaging I spend much time on.
Ha, and thanks. Man, I've been in the jungle of the fandom a long time, and there's definitely a lot that's...not so great. But there are some real, positive human interactions out there too. Glad to provide when I can.
Have you considered making a mobile port? I wanna play this game so bad but i dont have a pc 😭
No, stock RPGMaker is somewhat compatible with mobile, but I use a bunch of custom stuff that only really works on desktop. Also, I don't want to be mean, but what's your situation that you have NO desktop, laptop etc? I understand needing to keep things cheap, but pcs ARE cheaper than phones. Corporate/school surplus stuff from 10 years ago (which is MORE than enough to play this) is like $80 on Ebay. You can get a monitor for $20 at any thriftstore. Unless you're buying second-hand, phones START at like $200.
How are you able to function without a desktop? How do you do paperwork, browse anything other than social media, write anything longer than a paragraph? A number of people have asked this, and the whole scenario behind it genuinely baffles me. If you're someplace other than the US, where the availability is different, fair enough, but it's not a cost issue. Are you a university student crammed into a tiny dorm? But then how are you doing your coursework? Is your living situation so unstable/dangerous that you're afraid anything not on your person will be stolen? What's the story here?
I recently moved and have been struggling saving and getting stuff for my room i didnt bring much with me but little trinkets and my xbox i can afford a laptop the first s seeing how im done with the more important expenses im just impatient and wanna play a lil of this game cause theres like 0 good gay porn games on mobile
(Edit):also i don't find it mean/rude as yeah pcs for these types of games are pretty cheap so your confusion is justified
Ahh, ok. See, that absolutely makes sense then. I can just seize on things sometimes, and I don't want to sound like I'm attacking someone, for exactly this reason: sometimes there are good reasons I just can't think of. Sorry to hear though, and good luck getting everything sorted.
Don't worry im pretty laid back
Massive fan of your art for years (long time listener, first time caller). Saw the e6 promo a while ago and finally got around to playing..... GOD DAMN this hits all my buttons. Definitely gonna hop on the paid part two at some point to see the continuation. For some reason I couldn't get cases 3 and 4 in the gallery even though I'm pretty sure I got all the scenes but that's probably a skill issue. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!
Haha, aw thanks man. Winter's always...rough for me, so these comments give me life, especially now. Glad you were finally able to get to it!
Are you sure you have your scene count right though? 3 is unavoidable if you lose once in the Gutter itself. 4 is the set of scenes for the job at the video store, so if you took the job at the strip club you'll want to go back to a save and work there instead.Ooooh wait, this is CS ONE, didn't notice where you were commenting. Let me check quick (and yeah, definitely check out 2 when you can, it's like 3 times the content.) Ok, 3 and four should be getting to the Diezel fight with LESS THAN the full 3 defeats to the mobs. You'll have a choice in the kneeling scene to give in or keep struggling: struggling loops you, giving in should be scene 4 if I'm remembering right.But thanks again, and I definitely will!
Aww, why do all of these games have male protagonists x3 I wish there were more games like these with female protagonists uwu
Oh they're out there. Most of them just happen to be in Japanese.
I don't know if it's worth programming (and drawing) this since you're working on chapter 3 now, but it would be lovely that if you chose the slut ending, you can carry the ear tags over from chapter to chapter. Maybe accrue more and more slut gear and stack it on as the chapters go on and if you get too many, you're permalocked to only the slut endings~<3
The ear tags don't explicitly carry over visually, but you'll notice he pockets them in the slut ending. Things do accumulate, and will continue to, as the games go on.
this game is more sad than it is arousing. also i hope that the creator of this game is an adult. the contents of this game where a little disturbing honestly. of course, what was i supposed to expect given the provided screenshots... i don't know, i feel the game would be better if you excluded rape. but i have a feeling that may have been the point. regardless though it was fun while it lasted great art and pretty good writing. 7/10
ps: i hope my comment does not offend you its not meant to.
love and respect bro.
i really hope your grown, man, the furry community gets kids involved in shit like this all the time and it makes me sick.
Works of fiction are not real life. One of the purposes (maybe THE purpose) of fiction is to explore the unconscious, including (especially) the darker areas. We are, fundamentally, a predator species (sharp teeth, meat eating, persistence hunters), and despite tens of thousands of years of stuff accumulating on top of that, the base urges and instincts remain the same. It is better to exorcise those "demons" in contained places where they can do no harm than to let them fester in the dark. That which is feared and revered becomes powerful, that which is trivialized becomes largely harmless.
And even all that said, this is a very modest dipping into these themes. If they're not for you, that's fine of course, but understand that they ARE for a lot of people. The whole of BDSM essentially grows out of this, and it's not one-sided either. People enjoy throwing others around, but a whole lot of people enjoy GETTING thrown around too (and it fact that's the main audience for this game).
On your last point: In my experience the fandom is simultaneously one of the best and worst groups of people out there. Most are incredibly kind, patient, generous, creative and so on. But it's also a community of people built on the idea of being outcasts (like nerds, geeks, "gamers" etc), which makes its members extremely hesitant to gatekeep or have hard limits or boundaries, and this in turn leads to exploitation by bad actors who would have been much more rapidly shown the door in other circles. To be clear, I am NOT advocating the witch hunt nonsense that has devoured the internet in recent years. Encouraging dogpiles over minor things or fabricated evidence is bullshit. But if there is clear, severe evidence that someone is up to seriously terrible shit, and has been for a while, people should obviously warn others to stay away. What I make is adult entertainment, for adults. It's clearly marked as such. This isn't a physical store, I can't card people (and trying to do so online is impractical and dangerous for a variety of reasons), but this is an adult product with an adult intended audience.
i guess i understand but it still saddens me. and i guess thats my own messed up mind but seeing that stuff inflicted on real or fake people upsets me and i honestly think that things such as BDSM and kinks that revolve around, violence, humiliation, zoophilia and pedophilia should NOT be expressed at all in any way fictional or real. and i see where your coming from but id have to argue that making things like this to "explore" those fantasies only leads to that individual wanting more than just the fantasy. maybe not everyone but i feel like it just enables that behavior. and your comments about the furry community are somewhat false. i was involved with the community since i was 11 years old i'm now 18, and my ENTIRE time with the community was horrible. i was groomed, bullied, and abused by the people i tried to fit in with and now have lasting mental scars and it pisses me off every time someone says its 50/50 or that bad folk in the community are few and far between, its the exact opposite. and whenever i say this someone claps back with "well thats just your experience" or "you just hung around the wrong ones" and that is wrong. i tried and tried again to fit in and make friends but theres always problems. I'm always bullied or if not that I'm in a group of people who are toxic or judgmental or raciest or fucked up in some way. I'm tired of people acting like the community isn't mostly bad. it is mostly bad and i have damn near half my life to prove it!
Again i don't mean to offend you or be rude or be a dick and i apologize for ranting. to be honest i just want to heard. The furry community fucked me up and i struggle with it to this day, i've been though therapy, talked with countless people and asked countless questions and i still hurt i still feel like if i try to involve myself again it will only lead to more sadness and regret, more bulling and more stress.
i want to say one last thing. i don't know why but every time i see furry art or someone in a fursuit it makes me angry. it used to make me feel comfortable and safe but those feelings are rare now, and it fucking kills me. and now whenever i try to grab on to those feelings of safety and comfort when i see something that has do do with furries its immediately overshadowed by all my anger and sadness regarding the community.
i guess I'm done now sorry for the rant...
I'm sorry for your experience, and I'm certainly in no position to question it. All I can say is that I have an experience of the community as well, spanning quite a long time, and while it's far from the wonderful, fluffy thing a lot of people imagine it as, there are good people too. Again, most seem to be fairly harmless, and that can be a problem because their severe lack of cynicism and skepticism can be very welcoming and warm, but can also render them somewhat oblivious when someone someone starts exploiting people.
But again, fiction did not do this. Fiction did not create the people who abused you. Everyone has dark shit in their head. If they let it consume them it's because they chose to do so, not because art corrupted them somehow. I know it's tempting to think that way, to think "Why don't we just get rid of all the stuff that 'gives people ideas'? Only happy art, only happy thoughts, only happy acts." But that doesn't work because the problem isn't external, it's internal. This stuff is already a part of all of us, it's inescapable, and if you try to ignore or suppress it it only gets worse. That's what the old Jekyll and Hyde story is about: you can't "purify" things, either on an individual or societal level. That just makes the problem worse. You have to learn to integrate the two, to find a way to live with the dark side of yourself and, ideally, sublimate that energy toward something positive.
If furry stuff brings up bad memories, by all means stay away from it. I'll admit I find it a little strange you played the game, given your background. If this stuff has bad mental associations, stay way from it! Or at least re-introduce yourself slowly. But regardless, understand I don't want to cause you, or anyone else pain. The purpose of these games, in their own humble way, is exactly the opposite. Sex CAN be fun. Exploring kink and taboo in a safe way can be fun. It can relax and renew and help distract from the miserable grind of day to day life. I'm sorry your experiences have been bad, and I'm not denying them at all. Just understand that they CAN be positive too: they have been for me. In a weird way, this stuff has been a very positive force in my life: It's helped me deal with negative emotions, de-stress, reorient. At times in my life when things have been very dark, being able to get lost in fun little fantasy works, little horny vacations has been profoundly helpful. It has, almost literally, been a lifesaver. And that's why I make this stuff: to make some money of course, but also to try to share that positive experience with others. And from the comments I get, I've had at least some success.
I'm not a therapist or a psychologist. All I can say, genuinely, is that I hope you're able to heal and be happy again, in time. And I hope some of that happiness is being able to enjoy sexual stuff again, despite what's happened. It really can be a positive thing.
I don't know what to say. No one's laid it out to me that way honestly I don't know. I really do wanna be involved with it because it makes me happy. but I'm so tired of the pain and shit man. I just wanna be happy. I really appreciate you talking to me. You've done a lot more than a lot of other people. I've tried to talk with genuinely thank you. I don't know man my whole life I've had trouble making friends and feeling happy and then when I became a furry things got a little easier and then like I said all that shit happened and ever since then I haven't been able to have that feeling again. now it's gotten so bad to the point of where I honestly don't believe I can have a relationship or an actual friend. I don't know what to do. I want to go back to feeling happy and comfortable with that but now it's just a source of constant sadness and anger, and I don't want it to be. sorry I'm going on another rant. Honestly, these past couple weeks have been hard and my head's been all over the place. I'm sorry I even laid all this shit on you, man. I hope your life's going good and I hope you keep being the good person you are. seriously thank you for what you said. I've been anxious about this conversation and what you said I don't know, man I've got so much to work on. I've got so much fucked up with me. and I hate it bro. I'm scared cause I'm only 18 I'm terrified that shit's gonna get worse and all I'm trying to do is heal man. and all this thinking about my past and this shit on top of trying to find a job and make sure we have food and shit. It's just so much. And all I want is to relax and be happy I used to ERP and shit too man. god it made me so happy but then as the years went by, I started getting mad at myself for it.told myself It was bad even though deep down I knew that was helpful for me and it did exactly what you said it did (i even talked to my therapist and she said it was a good way to get those feelings out) and you're right. I'm just denying it because I am upset. I don't know man my whole life's a fucking mess but once again, I'm sorry to put all this on you. I know you're a complete stranger I'm sorry.i hope you have a good rest your day and thank you so much for replying to me once again. your words mean a lot to me, thank you.
oh, one last thing sorry about not seeing your messages. itch.io doesn't notify me. So if you reply to this, sorry if I don't see it for a while.
Hey, hey, breathe, it's good, you're good.
I'm not going to say I know the feeling EXACTLY, everyone has their own stuff to deal with. But I had some pretty rough times from high school all the way up till...a few years ago really. Trying to deal with shitty living situations, financial stress and yes, definitely sexuality stuff (though that resolved a lot sooner than the others). But I'm definitely no stranger to that overwhelming feeling of being buried under shit. And being younger can make it worse in some ways, because you have more energy, which means there's more energy for the anxiety to work with and run wild. The good news is there's obviously a lot of advantage to being young too, most obviously that you've got time.
Take that time. Sort out priorities. Triage like they do in ER, try to figure out what's most important, where you're taking the biggest hits or, on the other side, where the easiest wins are, and start stacking them up. Don't force yourself to do stuff too fast or too early, but do try to make steady progress on what's important. Build it up over time.
And again, I'm really sorry to hear something you enjoyed so much got ruined. Not because you can't enjoy my silly little game, but because like I said, that stuff really is a big part of life, and can be really positive and helpful with the right people. But again, just do what you can to build, slowly. As someone who's struggled with depression and definitely still has some trust issues, human connections are still important, despite the shitty things so many people do. I obviously don't know you, or all the specifics of your situation, but I do at least somewhat remember what it was like to be a teenager, and yeah. I'll just say that if I was able to get past some of the stuff that seemed really dire at that point, your chances are probably pretty good too. Just let yourself take the time you need. Not too fast, not too slow.
I have a little criticism about how the game looks (at least on the first level).
The water is way too bright and the rest is way too dark. it's kind of painful to look at.
Fair enough. I don't think it's been an issue for most people, as this is the first complaint I've got, but different people obviously have different preferences. Probably won't be tweaking it at this point, but will keep in mind for future stuff.
A bit late to the party here i think, but im having truble running the game and starting, downloaded the latest version if that help
What specific problem are you having? Game won't launch? Game launches, then crashes with an error? Game runs, but not correctly?
Wont run, computer says "cannot find file nw_elf.dll", I look at all the file and I can still see it. All times I tried to run, it said that specific one could not be found.
Take a look at some of the other help I've given regarding file not found errors, here and on the forums for GT. Generally, avoid running the game in deep nested folders, on the system drive, or on external drives. RPGMaker has issues with that stuff for some reason. Copy-paste the game directory to another drive, no extra directories, and see if that fixes the problem.
Sorry, but is it possible that the game will be in Russian?
If a native speaker volunteers to do so, absolutely; as I say in the translation sticky (on GT), I'm open to unofficial translations. But I don't do any translations myself or contract out for a professional to do so, not enough time and money for that currently. Also keep in mind that if you just want basic playability, CS and CS:GT are RPGMaker games, which means they're very easy to hook and machine-translate in real-time with "RPGMakerMVGame Hook patcher", Textractor, and a free API key from Deepl. Far from perfect, but it'll get you the general idea.
I could translate the game for you ;) I am a native russian speaker ^^
By all means! See the first post here for the "rules," but it basically just boils down to "Be clear it's unofficial, don't charge for it, only distribute text, if you use machine translation for more that 20%, say so." I generally recommend Translator++ for translating RPGMaker games, as it's easier to keep track of everything, but you're certainly free to do it however works for you. And send me a link when/if you finish!
Would this game work on Joiplay?
It may. Not officially supported though.
Hello, I like the game, it's incredible, but can someone give me a guide to the game, excuse me.
Take a look here.
Hey, great game! Even made an itch account just to comment! It was a... real experience. Downloaded for the horny, stayed and completed the game for Mezz's dignity. Might sound strange, but I couldn't even bring myself to lose intentionally. Might defeat the purpose of the game, but Mezz was just too lovable of a character! I just felt too bad seeing the fail and loss endings for Mezz, even if that's the point of it. I'm just glad there is an uncorrupted ending and routes for staying pure for players that want to see him succeed. It might be contradictory to your design, and you're welcome to make your games how you like, but I would like to continue to see options for pure endings for Mezz, even if it's hard. Maybe even wholesome sex scenes without mind control or coercion? Just a suggestion. Well, speaking on difficulty, beating this first chapter while fighting everything, especially the bar before the boss, was quite tough! Maybe even a bit unfair and luck based at times, taking many retries for the bar before the boss, but I suppose it's intended to lose alot a standard playthrough, even if it's not intended from the player's point of view. The humiliation part of the game is not lost on me, but I like beating the game without Mezz being humiliated. I'm glad there was an option, no matter how tough it was. Either way, great game, hope to see more from you. Thanks.
Aw, thanks! Glad you're enjoying it so far.
"I would like to continue to see options for pure endings for Mezz, even if it's hard." There definitely will be, tough it will obviously be only a small part of the scenes overall. But hey, you can play it the way you enjoy it. I mostly have the "pure" path as a counter to the other stuff; it's not fun to lose if you don't have the OPTION to actually play legitimately.
"taking many retries for the bar before the boss, but I suppose it's intended to lose a lot a standard playthrough,"
I tend to put in "speed bumps" or barriers, pain points that are meant to tempt players to go the "easy" way. People do the humiliation thing differently: some just plow him straight into the scenes, but some like a little bit of coercion or struggle, they like to actually be pulled into it, so those bits are there for that. It is possible to push through them for pure players though, just takes extra effort. And I try to not make the speed bumps TOO brutal: that bar fight used to be a lot worse.
Hi, thank you for the reply. I'm glad to hear there'll be continued support for pure paths, and I appreciate your reasons for your design choices. They seem really thought out. I think it's really great design that you give options and decent outcomes for a wide variety of players, including myself. And the "speed bumps" you were talking about were so satisfying to overcome in a pure route, considering how difficult it was. I felt giddy with excitement when I beat the game purely because I was questioning if it was even possible or not, even though Mezz seemed to act like it was the easiest thing in the world. I can see this series being really successful, and I look forward to getting a copy of the next chapter. I took a peek at it, and it seems pretty interesting! The save transfer feature for story consistency will be especially nice for the pure routes. Anyways, thank you for your time and interaction. I wish you luck.
can you add a linux tag to the windows one as well linux can run windows application
Indeed it can, but that's not the purpose of that tag. That tag means "supported platform", ie the game in question is specifically designed for said platform, which the CS games are not. It means they are intended to run smoothly and easily on a platform, which these games are not with Linux. It implies that if they DON'T work on those platforms, I will put in the time and effort needed to make sure they do. In other words, it is, or may be, possible to get these games running on Linux (or Mobile), but it isn't SUPPORTED. If you want to try, you're on your own, and things will probably break at various points. And as I remind people whenever this comes up, just for starters I have a number of plugins at this point that assume a desktop Windows environment, so they're not going to be happy on a Linux system. But if you want to try, you're certainly welcome to, and I imagine getting an RPGMaker game to run on Linux will probably be much easier than say a serious 3D game that's trying to make intense use of the hardware. But it will be a hassle.
Just tried to find the hypnotized version of the fight music but had no luck. All i could find was that it's called Dance With Powder. Did you slow the song by yourself? Or did you find a different version? Thanks in advance
Yeah, it's just slowed down and pitch shifted slightly in-engine.
That’s a shame, i thought it was really good.
I mean you could probably get a similar effect with a few minutes in Audacity or the like, and the song normal-speed is pretty fun too.
After seeing the gallery im suprised you dont have a option to fight the genaric boars again or have a image of the bun with the diffrent poses you made for the game.
Galleries are always about a time calculation. The idea is to let impatient people skip straight to the juiciest content, or people who have played through revisit said content easily a few months/years afterward if they want without having to fumble with saves or replay the whole game. I leave the battlesex stuff out of the gallery because my thinking is it's fairly easy to reach normally. Even if you had no saves and had to play through the intro bit again, that's MAYBE 20 minutes, and then you can quickly lose and see all the variations of the battlesex system. In contrast, getting to every single scene normally takes a while. But as always, I do keep an ear out. If enough people want a fight generator I may consider it.
Fun game so far, though I've noticed an edge case that looks like it wasn't accounted for. If you reach the broken in state and then take off your ear clips, there's no special dialogue or anything. In the next battle, the sprite initially shows without the clips, but you still deal reduced damage and as soon as the enemies have a turn, they fuck you again as normal. At that point, the clips magically reappear on the sprite. Would be nice to either have some different mechanic here or dialogue explaining that we don't want to take off the clips at that point or something. (It also might be important to mention that I was naked when beginning the fight. So naked, but without ear clips.)
In general, the ear clips exist as a toggle to allow players to avoid the sex mechanic in battle at certain points. It's somewhat of a meta thing however: narratively, Mezz can't remove the clips because he doesn't know they're there.
Once Mezz has been defeated 3 times, this ability to toggle off the battle sex is removed: you can remove the clips, but it won't do anything. This is by design. As for the sprites, while I try to maintain "common sense" consistency for the most part, I'm not sure it's worth digging through the code for this particular case at this point. I will take a look when I have a chance though, and see if there's a simple way to address it, and to see if I can remember whether this was deliberate for some reason or a genuine oversight. Thanks for reporting though, regardless.
Alright, had a chance to sit down and do some testing. Starting a fight after 3 defeats ("slut mode") with the clips removed does indeed initially show Mezz without them, but they re-appear once the sex starts.
Unfortunately I think I'm going to leave it as-is for now. Fixing would require a whole unique set of sex sprites without the clips, and code to check for slut mode, and I don't want to mess with the precarious coding of the battle engine on CS unless I have to. Thanks for letting me know though!
Glad you enjoyed it overall!
Yeah, the lack of variety in enemies/combat is definitely an issue, and it was improved SOMEWHAT in GutterTrash. I'm a little limited in what I can do in that area though, because more enemies, if they're significantly different, doesn't just mean new sprites, but also new variations for the sex sprites etc. It adds up quickly. I do a similar thing in GT (one species of enemies, but a few palate swaps for sub-classes), but there's a bit more depth to it, especially on some of the bosses. Glad you were able to enjoy this first attempt though!
This was an amazing game, I got the slut mode ending because obviously that’s accurate for me. Really well designed and good gameplay as well.
Thanks!
How dare this game be so good and im now only hearing about it! also amazing game 10/10
Ha, thanks! Give GutterTrash a try too when you can: if you like this, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
Heck ya, just got it actually am super exited to play!
Excellent! And let me know what you think, always enjoy hearing from people.
Perche non mettere il gioco gratis capitolo 1 & 2 avresti molti piu giocatori fidati..... il gioco bello peccato che si debba pagare
Il negozio di alimentari non mi dà cibo gratis. Insistono perché io usi i soldi. Lo stesso vale per il distributore di benzina. E la lavanderia a gettoni. E il mio ISP. In verità, c'è molta crudeltà nel mondo di oggi.
I did not have any technical problems and everything seemed well polished enough, but after seeing the two "good" endings I kinda wish there was a middle road. In my first playthrough I went in blind, kept the clips and engaged with the scenes while trying not to lose so I ended up avoiding the slut mode, made we kind wish he didn't toss them at the end. While the slut mode end felt too much like I still lost the game, so I would not go that route if given the choice again. I understand that's the kind of game you're making, just needed to get that out of my chest.
Different flavors for different people obviously, nothing wrong with that. But yes, unfortunately what I call the "trained" ending, with him being used but escaping is essentially the "middle" ending depending on how you look at it. Pure obviously would be no captures. But I suppose middle is debatable, because maximum corruption leads to the trained end, whereas SOME corruption either leads to the ordinary victory, a temp defeat and then the ordinary victory, or a full defeat where he doesn't leave the island. Thematically though, I tend to think of the trained end or slutmode end as the middle path.
What were you looking for, more specifically though？ You don't have describe specific scenes or anything, just broadly what were you imagining as the ideal middle way? What would it look like? Obviously not going to change this game, but I can always consider ideas.
Was kinda worried I was coming in too strong, I respect the effort you've put on this project a lot, forgot to mention I do love the style, specially the main character. If you want to hear my thoughts, I admit I agree the "middle road" I imagined is not a great fit for what's built here, mechanically it would involve the ability to actively engage with the sex battling, rather than just being overtaken by an enemy, making it an option along with the normal attacks, maybe even giving xp for k.o. an opponent that way since normal sex here gives none. And for the story I guess it'd be something like a glitch? the clips and hypno not entirely working as intended as he would not turn into an obedient slave, but keep his personality and goals while becoming open to sex and nudity, he might still need to fight off hypnotic attacks since he'd be on the brink of giving in but would pull through regular battles when needed. An example would be what I mentioned on the previous post, getting the normal ending where the boars die, but leave with the clips on hand instead of tossing them into the sea.
No no, you're perfectly fine. People are free to talk about things they dislike about the game (and in fact I encourage it) as long as they're not being really shitty and rude about it, which you weren't.
"mechanically it would involve the ability to actively engage with the sex battling, rather than just being overtaken by an enemy."
I'd highly recommend you check out the sequel, GutterTrash, if you haven't already. Definitely more of that there. Though to be fair, there is SOME engagement here too, at least in terms of choosing to actively participate, go along with it, or struggle.
In terms of the rest of it I can see what you're saying, but essentially that's what the Trained end is for: he's defeated, but he THINKS he won, and continues on with further adventures, keeping the clips and conditioning. Again, I'd encourage you to play GT if you haven't to see how all this starts to mesh together.
Appreciate the thoughts though, I'm always glad when people care enough to think this stuff through and try to articulate what worked or didn't for them. I can't hit everything obviously, but I definitely take it into account.
Glad to hear, and I'll think about it. I'll let you be, but to finish, what you said is a point that sticks with me "thinks he won", I've played these kinds of games for far too long and that always rubs me the wrong way, to do the fun part you have to sacrifice the main character's goals, it's hard to find a game where the mc gets into the fun willingly or at least enjoys in a way that isn't portrayed as a negative while also achieving a definitive win in the end, I guess I always end up getting too invested in the plot.
Again, different things for different people. But there are actually a LOT of games out there that are just ordinary sex, darker stuff is actually pretty rare, especially in western games. If I'm understanding you right you're basically saying "why can't this be a game where the hero can just enjoy having sex without the dark overtones?", but those overtones are the whole point. That's the kink. The drive of these games has always been to have that darker flavor, they're very much games where the bad end is the good end, ie what you as the player are actually trying to achieve. They're about sadism and masochism, though more mental than physical, and obviously not as brutal as that might imply. But if that's not your flavor, that's entirely fair.
How do you move the save file from this to the second game?
Follow the instructions here. Note that you're not actually moving an ordinary save file, but a js file I use to store some extra info.
very nice, i dont see many hypnosis games, hope to see more!
Thanks! Definitely give Gutter Trash a try if you haven't already: much more of the same, and more coming in a month or so!
who can send me full game with save file?
Well this first game itself is free. The save file may not be as useful as you think though, as the game doesn't have a gallery to unlock yet: the only way to see the scenes currently is to actually play the game. If you're having trouble with a particular part, let me know, or check the Scene Guide here.
oh k ty
このゲームを日本語に翻訳したいと思います。どのエンジンを使って作ったのですか?
ご覧いただきありがとうございます！
Cruel SerenadeとGutter Trashは、どちらもRPGMaker MV 1.6.2で作られています。Translator++( https://dreamsavior.net/download )を使うことをお勧めします。少し複雑ですが、手作業でファイルを編集するよりも、あるいはプロジェクト・ファイルから作業するよりもずっと簡単です。また、荷造りや荷解き、その他多くのことを自動化してくれる。インターフェイスは他の言語にも切り替えられるが、残念ながら日本語版はまだない。いくつかの設定ファイルを編集することで、インターフェイスの独自翻訳が可能なようだ。
以下の限りにおいて、翻訳と配布を許可する：
1. ゲーム全体ではなく、変更したテキストファイルだけを配布すること。
2. 「非公式」または「ファン」翻訳であることを明記すること。
3. お金を請求しない。
がんばってください！もし完成したら、また教えてね！ぜひ見せてください。質問があれば遠慮なく聞いてください。
分かりました！返信ありがとうございます!
How do I get through the nightclub phase with the Hyenas? I found the door but I don't have a key to open it.
To be clear, in case other people see this and get confused, this is in GutterTrash, not this first one.
By "night club" I'm assuming you mean the basement party area with the green fog? Talk to the NPCs. Specifically, one on the far left.
I've already spoken to Hyena and the scene has already occurred but I'm stuck with the key and I can't get it crooked.
No, you want the green kitsune, not the hyena. That should put you on the right path to getting the key. If you already HAVE the key, you should just be able to use it (once you've dealt with the guard).
sorry, I'm very buggy, English is very weak
the green kitsune how do i think?
No problem, feel free to use your native language if it's easier, and it's a common one. I can probably machine translate it.
The one you want is the green kitsune/fox all the way on the left, Satin. He gives you a long fetch quest going back and forth through various NPCs in the room via hints, which I can see being difficult if English isn't your native language. BUT, you actually don't have to do that: you can skip the quest. Talk to him again, and when he gives you the text input box, type "you". He'll deny it the first time, so do it again, and then you'll get the key.